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Anyone else really liking them? To me they're really fresh and just awesome. My dad likes them too... my flatmates and girlfriend all hate them. What's the SuperJer foram verdict?
 
 
 
2009 Jan 23 at 13:12 PST
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Lol, it's like with me and Franz Ferdinand. I just lover their stuff and all of my friends just hate them.

Hmm, The Hold Steady kind of sound rather generic too me, but on the other hand I like listening to tinny guitar sound.
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2009 Jan 23 at 13:22 PST
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I just heard them for the first time now after you asked. I heard a few of their songs and their relatively good. I'm not a good person to ask, though, as I listen mainly to jazz, blues and classical music. After learning music on a semi-professional level I just can't stand the repetitiveness of rock and other popular music. Sorry
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2009 Jan 23 at 13:25 PST
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Repetitive, yes, awesome, yes. When you say semi-professional do you mean you almost got paid?

Oh - Franz Ferdinand are good. From Glasgow I believe
 
 
 
2009 Jan 23 at 13:27 PST — Ed. 2009 Jan 23 at 13:27 PST
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I think I'm on a similar page as Edan here. It's VERY rare that I find a band that can make music as good and original as a professional composer.

I assume that I differ from Edan in that I mostly listen to music that was made for something. Be it a game or movie or something else.
 
 
 
2009 Jan 23 at 14:56 PST — Ed. 2009 Jan 23 at 15:02 PST
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I remember when Craig Finn was in Lifter Puller. He's always been a darling to certain people in the music scene. I suppose he succeeds and being less dumb than most lyricists, but there's something about his singing style I've just never been fond of, and I can put up with a lot of rather weird singers.
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2009 Jan 23 at 16:21 PST — Ed. 2009 Jan 23 at 16:22 PST
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Don't get me wrong; I like listening to my classical and that sort of thing but I don't feel I should restrict myself to that style (yes Edan jazz is very nice too). I'd say it's very difficult to draw any sane comparison between such different styles of music (TA still has an amazing soundtrack though; it is a little empty as it has been created purely for the game but is still very very good for that purpose). I'd disagree with Edan's statement quite strongly (many modern-day artists have gone through rather a lot of classical music training, I suppose I respect that, almost, much as I detest them).

NJ: yes, he has a very weird voice. In fact that's what my flatmates find the worst. I'm going to listen to them now to "stock up" as it were, before they return.

Oh - criticism. I find their songs to be rather similar lyrically, which can get boring, even if the songs themselves have a rather different tune.

I'll end with a rundown of the songs I like particularly, so far: I like "The Swish", "Knuckles", "Stuck Between Stations", "Hot Soft Light", "First Night" and "Chillout Tent", all from their first two albums. There are other good tunes on there too. My dad has their most recent which I will be stealing (figures as I did buy it online for him). Also, I bought Fleet Foxes at the same time. Not heard much of their stuff but I am interested; worthwhile purchase on the part of my dad?
 
 
 
2009 Jan 23 at 16:37 PST — Ed. 2009 Jan 23 at 16:45 PST
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Fleet Foxes, I've also heard of, but not heard directly. There's a radio station back home that would play stuff like that all the time, but I haven't listened to it in months because I've been on the other side of the country with an erratic internet service that keeps me from live streaming.

I don't seem to pay as much attention to newly released music as I did a couple of years ago. About all that I bought this past year that was "new" was "Attack and Release" by The Black Keys (up there with their best), "The Virginia EP" by The National (not bad for B-sides, but not something you can listen to all the time), and "Dear Science" by TV on the Radio (still like their old stuff better than the past two albums, but it's really mostly about the singing anyway). I should probably grab the latest two Okkervil River albums when I get a minute, but the most exciting band discovery for me in 2008 was a group that hasn't released anything in ten years.



Jazz is tasty music.
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2009 Jan 23 at 16:59 PST
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See you say you don't keep up with new music but then I have heard o' none of them. I mean about as obscure as I could get (not very) would be, say, Lemon Jelly or Scott Matthews. Possibly Biffy Clyro. I used to keep up with new bands and things but recently XFM Scotland's eXposure show (previously called the Beatscene when it was Beat 106) lost its host Jim Gellatly (I say lost, he was chucked) which meant that no longer could I hear random British acts that were semi-decent. Because really, the new types there don't have a clue.
 
 
 
2009 Jan 23 at 17:07 PST
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Franz Ferdinand=<3
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2009 Jan 23 at 17:23 PST
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I used to think Bloc Party was okay, but after a while I realized how patterned their lyrics were and that they were sort of doing the Interpol thing, only with more layered and talented guitar work and more emotional lyrics. That about does it for me and contemporary music out of the UK. I used to like Franz Ferdinand, but I stopped caring about them after the first album. I don't know about any of the others you listed.

I suppose the music scene is a little different over there, but if you're listening to The Hold Steady now I'm a little surprised that you haven't heard of the others. The Black Keys are a more blues-derived version of The White Stripes. Okkervil River is morose, overwrought, and folky. The other two, I'm hard-pressed to describe. TV on the Radio is a hip-hop/rock fusion outfit that added a lot of electronic elements in recent albums, static to the detriment of instruments. The National doesn't sound much like anyone else, slurred reflective lyrics, arranged instruments that would be generally unimpressive in isolation and somehow work as a unit. Their last album, "Boxer", got a lot of press, but it didn't have the same depth to it that their previous work did.
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2009 Jan 23 at 17:39 PST — Ed. 2009 Jan 23 at 17:40 PST
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I think Jazz is one of the kind of music that maaany people like but only few seriously listen too. Like "Oh yea... Jazz... it's pretty cool." Might also be because Jazz is best when heard live.

Fleet Foxes is one of those bands I hear alot praise about, but only in written words. I have never listened to one of their songs. I should do, because the name sounds just great.
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2009 Jan 24 at 01:34 PST — Ed. 2009 Jan 24 at 01:36 PST
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I know Interpol! I like them. Yes, Franz's second album was disappointing. I'm beginning to think that I have heard of TV on the Radio but I am not sure. The Hold Steady appeared on Jools Holland a while back, they got a lot of press from that.

As regards jazz I wouldn't say I am really into it but I have a friend who plays in jazz bands, she's taken me to a few live concerts. They're great. (I'm really sorry about those last sentences. They're awful.)
 
 
 
2009 Jan 24 at 06:04 PST
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I actually liked all FF albums so far. All of them had some really great songs. Also the new album is really good. I gotta get used to the "alot electronic" all of a sudden sound though. That kind of is weird knowing the previous stuff, but the album is awesome on its own nonetheless.
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2009 Jan 24 at 09:56 PST
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molkman said:
I think Jazz is one of the kind of music that maaany people like but only few seriously listen too. Like "Oh yea... Jazz... it's pretty cool." Might also be because Jazz is best when heard live.

I see the dynamic as being rather different in the U.S. Jazz seems to be perceived as this outdated relic that only the elderly are involved with. Real tame stuff, in the perception of most. I tell people I listen to jazz and they're taken aback for a moment and don't know how to respond.

The trouble is that there isn't any of the really crazy hard bop jazz left. The Lounge Lizards were recording some pretty interesting stuff for a while, but no one has heard from them in a long time. Before that, you'd have to go back to Mingus and Coltrane to get the really weird and interesting stuff.
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