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Big Poop
I JUST KEEP TALKING

2006 May 11 • 9
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Wow thats coool
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 23 at 17:02 UTC
CornJer
Metal does cocaine.

Frontline Heroism Medal
2005 Mar 21 • 1531
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Free Choice as in to define what you want to happen. To define the future, if you will.

The common definition.


For anyone who didn't get me the first time


It doesnt exist, because predefined things that have happened since the beginning have created causes and effects untill now.

Things have influenced your thinking, which means that what you will do is predetermined.

Example. The thought "I am going to post on what I think about free choice" has been predefined by an occurrence which has happened due to an occurrance and so on and so forth until the beginning. And trying to stop that is predetermined too, because something CAUSED you to think about changing that. You are guided by what has already happened.

In essense, you could say that EVERYTHING is predefined, meaning a set timeline for our universe, making it linear.

The future has been determined since the beginning.
If you jump high enough you'll hurt your ankles when you land.
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 23 at 20:00 UTC
SuperJer
Websiteman

2005 Mar 21 • 6663
To look at it another way,

Everything that will happen tomorrow is going to happen in one certain way. We don't know it yet and there may be no way to predict it.

But tomorrow can only occur one way. The way it's being GOING TO occur since a thousand years ago, since forever ago. As we experience it tomorrow, that's the way it was going to be all along.

Same thing for today. Think of something that you decided today. Got it? Well that's been exactly what you were going to decide since ancient history...

Neat, huh?

There's only one future: the future that's going to actually happen...
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 23 at 20:41 UTC
CornJer
Metal does cocaine.

Frontline Heroism Medal
2005 Mar 21 • 1531
36 ₧
Kinda depressing if you think about it.
If you jump high enough you'll hurt your ankles when you land.
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 24 at 17:20 UTC
SuperJer
Websiteman

2005 Mar 21 • 6663
"dburnell01" said:
Kinda depressing if you think about it.


Nah! The illusion of free will is the best you can get. So we've got the BEST YOU CAN GET!

That's great news!

You can't be depressed that you don't have something which isn't even definable!! It's like being depressed that you don't have ikfrastibnoppet.
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 24 at 19:42 UTC
aaronjer
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Comrade General 5-Star
2005 Mar 21 • 5042
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It would only be depressing if you could somehow predict the future AND couldn't change it anyway.

Also, think of it this way: It could be predefined that your life will be EXTREMELY fun and full of joy with no bad occurences EVER and there is nothing anyone could do to change it.
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 25 at 01:48 UTC
Jet Monkey Duo
Reff Admin

2005 Mar 27 • 159
114 ₧
Thanks to Mr. Heisenberg uncertainty principle, it's not possible to predict the future, nor is it possible to know every detail of any point in the present or past.

Thanks to this, we cannot know our fate and are free to perceive our life as being full of choice.

Or, to put it another way, what aaronjer said.
Brayor
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 25 at 02:52 UTC
SuperJer
Websiteman

2005 Mar 21 • 6663
I can predict the past!

But I can't change it either....
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 26 at 08:25 UTC
CornJer
Metal does cocaine.

Frontline Heroism Medal
2005 Mar 21 • 1531
36 ₧
So the question is: Can we really change the future?
If you jump high enough you'll hurt your ankles when you land.
 
 
 
≡ 2006 May 26 at 13:50 UTC
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