Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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sprinkles said: Basically, Chrome is like its own mini OS.
I disagree with some of your points, but this is the one that I disagree with the most :p
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2010 Aug 1 at 05:33 PDT
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Down Rodeo said: sprinkles said: Basically, Chrome is like its own mini OS.
I disagree with some of your points, but this is the one that I disagree with the most :p Explain.
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2010 Aug 1 at 16:38 PDT
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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There's nothing OS about it! It's just a web-browser where there's one master thread and a few worker threads (obviously one per tab). That's it! No memory or device management, no process control, no... just go and look up what kernels do - Chrome doesn't. Because it's a browser, not an OS.
Am I really answering this question? Oh, I got the mp3 almost working, as in, it displayed something in-game. Had to quit at that point, I might get another look tomorrow. There are no changes you need to make to the code, you just need to add a couple of files to resource/. I'll tell you later, but bonus points if you work it out yourself :)
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2010 Aug 1 at 16:50 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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Down Rodeo said: sprinkles said: Basically, Chrome is like its own mini OS.
I disagree with some of your points, but this is the one that I disagree with the most :p Not me, the one I disagree with most is that each tab runs in its own sandbox... thats not true at all. And if it was, you wouldn't be able to get any viruses while using chrome. You also wouldn't be able to save any downloaded files to your comp from chrome. Or access cookies.
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2010 Aug 1 at 17:17 PDT
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Rockbomb said: ...Not me, the one I disagree with most is that each tab runs in its own sandbox... thats not true at all. And if it was, you wouldn't be able to get any viruses while using chrome. You also wouldn't be able to save any downloaded files to your comp from chrome. Or access cookies.
That's not what I said.
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2010 Aug 1 at 17:48 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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sprinkles said: Rockbomb said: ...Not me, the one I disagree with most is that each tab runs in its own sandbox... thats not true at all. And if it was, you wouldn't be able to get any viruses while using chrome. You also wouldn't be able to save any downloaded files to your comp from chrome. Or access cookies.
That's not what I said. sprinkles said:
On top of that, Chrome has its own sandbox..
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2010 Aug 1 at 18:01 PDT
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oh oh oh burrn
I drink to forget but I always remember.
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2010 Aug 1 at 18:21 PDT
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SRAW
Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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It's safe to say that sprinkles once again fails
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2010 Aug 1 at 18:36 PDT
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aaronjer
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2005 Mar 21 • 4940
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Sprinkles never said EACH TAB runs in it's own sandbox. Not that I'm taking sides here. He said each tab run in it's own thread.
I'm pretty sure Sprinkles was just referring to the sandbox security level.
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2010 Aug 1 at 21:57 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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aaronjer said: Sprinkles never said EACH TAB runs in it's own sandbox. Not that I'm taking sides here. He said each tab run in it's own thread.
I'm pretty sure Sprinkles was just referring to the sandbox security level.
Ah your right, he didn't say each tab... you got me there.
Nonetheless, chrome still isn't a sandbox.
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2010 Aug 1 at 22:12 PDT
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aaronjer
*****'n Admin
2005 Mar 21 • 4940
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But it does HAVE one, which is what Sprinkles actually said.
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2010 Aug 1 at 22:15 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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Does it? I'm gonna need to see some official documents here...
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2010 Aug 1 at 22:21 PDT
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aaronjer
*****'n Admin
2005 Mar 21 • 4940
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It's definitely not a mini-OS though... 
I can see why he said that, what with it having very linux-like features. Since it doesn't crash with one tab having a problem, and linux is one of VERY few things that also doesn't totally shut down from one thing crashing, it has that similarity. That isn't an OS feature though, it's a feature that most things should have. It's just the result of multi-threading things. Games should have that too, like, if the sound crashes it shouldn't crash the game.
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2010 Aug 1 at 22:27 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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Hmmm.... just did some research on this whole supposed sandbox-within-chrome thing.
Turns out I'm wrong, there really is a "sandbox" built into chrome.
But to me, its not a true sandbox. Its more like one of those things that they fill up with shredded tires and claim that its safe but then when you fall off the swing and break your face you realize its not as safe as you thought.
In fact, it kinda bothers me that they even claim it to be a sandbox. All the system files are still readily accessible from chrome, because if they blocked out the system files chrome wouldn't even be able to run. I'd say a good 80% of the viruses out there initially target some sort of system file.... hence rendering chromes "sandbox" useless.
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2010 Aug 1 at 22:40 PDT
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I drink to forget but I always remember.
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2010 Aug 1 at 23:40 PDT
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aaronjer
*****'n Admin
2005 Mar 21 • 4940
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Well I give a fuck. About the motherfuckin' Eastern Orthodox Church! Wooooo-ooooh!
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2010 Aug 2 at 02:06 PDT
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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Actually, the individual page threads might not need access to files. If you were being really strict you could just have them get data from the internet and display it. Possibly access to some areas of memory so that they could access a cache. But I'm no computer scientist man.
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2010 Aug 2 at 03:11 PDT
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2010 Aug 2 at 11:36 PDT
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so i can look at porn AND go to **BAD IMAGE** 
I drink to forget but I always remember.
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2010 Aug 2 at 15:22 PDT
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buq25
2008 Jul 5 • 583
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Fail, cloudy
the_cloud_system said: so i can look at porn AND go to **BAD IMAGE**
Today's post brought to you by the letter: "heck".
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2010 Aug 2 at 15:24 PDT
— Ed. 2010 Aug 2 at 15:29 PDT
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ahhahahhaha
I drink to forget but I always remember.
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2010 Aug 2 at 16:07 PDT
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sprinkles said: You see, Chrome's 'sandbox' is that it runs multiple process and lots of threads. If you knew anything about programming you would realize how hard it is to invoke something from another thread. So basically, you can have a malicious site on one tab, and all your important, confidential information on another tab. The malicious site is not granted access to the information on any other tab, thus you are safe. The same goes for the processes.
The really important thing is the multiple processes (at least on Windows). You can run a process with very restricted access. It's not just about protecting your other tabs either. Sandboxing web pages, scripts and plugins stops malware from infecting your computer as a whole.
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2010 Aug 2 at 21:18 PDT
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some pictures dont load...
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2010 Aug 3 at 00:58 PDT
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