LivingDog

2009 Jan 30 • 20

I tried to create a ladder with the instructions in the superjer article but this time up against a cylinder. To match the side with the ladder I used wedges with no grid. It looked beautiful.

However, Alt-P revealed two identical errors "Solid ...". After struggling with the build I decided to start from scratch keeping my cylinder. That didn't work. So I went back one more step and deleted the cylinder ... the two errors still appeared with the cylinder deleted. (Ctrl-Z brought the cylinder back.)

I've built a working ladder up against a wall but for some reason my understanding hit a wall and this cylinder is really frustrating me.

I used two wedges for the CLIMBY and VISUAL bits. These matched the angle of the face on the 8 sided cylinder. Now I think I am trying to do something that wasn't meant to be done?

And finally, I have tried to build only _1_ ladder - so after deleting all of the parts how can I still be getting this error??

Oh... one last thing, when I try to compile the exported .MAP file the error log refers to "Entity 17 ... " - are the entities numbered so I can locate which entity to which it is referring?

Thanks in advance.

headtanner
2009 Jan 25 • 32

i don't think it has anything to do with the cyclinder cause some of my maps have ladders in mid air

headtanner
2009 Jan 25 • 32

heres a link to a tut video i made on ladder in valve hammer edidtor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAT3e1nReC0 if its not processed yet then wait for 10 min and try again

Mate de Vita
Kelli

2008 Oct 4 • 2453
159 ₧

This error sometimes occurs when you tie a brush to an entity and then delete the brush. Why, I have no idea.

Anyway go under Map->Entity report and filter brush entities only.
Now select each one of the in your case func_ladders and press 'go to'. If it selects something then select the next func_ladder. If it doesn't select anything, press 'delete'. Repeat this until you've deleted all the 'empty entities'. Then press alt+p again to check just in case you missed one.

LivingDog

2009 Jan 30 • 20

AHHAHAHAhhhahahahaha ... worked exactly as u said dude! u da' man!
THANKS THANKS THANKS no more empty ladders :):)

BTW, it did select "nothing" as it was doing before when I tried to fix it... oh, this is weird. When I hit "fix" it .. ohhhh it was trying to fix something that wasn't there, but MAP->ENTITY REPORT lets you delete it - very different action ... um ... deleting something that isn't there ... w e i r d :)

thx again!

LivingDog

2009 Jan 30 • 20

Thanks! I bookmarked it in case I ever get confused again! :)

LivingDog

2009 Jan 30 • 20

Alt-p = No errors were found.

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C:\zhlt\<file>.bat

. . .

Error: Entity 17 has no visible brushes

Error: No visible brushes
Description: All brushes are CLIP or ORIGIN (at least one must be normal/visible)

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I think the problem is that what I am trying is not possible - or needs some clever work around that my inexperienced self does not know about VHE enough to figure out.

I am trying to use one face of an octagon shaped cylinder as the CLIP brush. I thought that changing the entire cylinder to a CLIP brush might be the fix, but nah uh... I took a snap to show you my idea (only the thumb image is bad):

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I rotated the AAATRIGGER brush so it is flush with that face of the octagon, and then rotated the ladder part (func_illusionary) in the same way, but made sure it is in front of the AAATRIGGER and CLIP parts.

Killer-Duck
Homicidal Anatidae

2008 Mar 5 • 1169
633 ₧

What exactly are you trying to do?

LivingDog

2009 Jan 30 • 20

I am trying to mount a ladder on one face of an octagon cylinder.

I thought only the face needed to be CLIP - nope.

I thought the cylinder needed to be CLIP - nope.

I thought I needed a separate CLIP brush - nope.

Nothing seems to work. I made a ladder in a box with no problems... yet this seems impossible.

Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse


2007 Oct 19 • 5486
57,583 ₧

The CLIP brush stops players going through but allows bullets and grenades through. I'd advise texturing the octagon how you want then placing a clip brush just where the ladder is, same shape etc. In fact is the CLIP even needed? I dunno.

LivingDog

2009 Jan 30 • 20

I did that in my last attempt to fix this! "I thought I needed a separate CLIP brush - nope."

Are the entities numbered? (I need a textbook ) Maybe I can find the problem using this info? I did try MAP->Entity report but it shows the correct list of ... wait a sec... CLIP => ladder but ORIGIN => door! Could the problem be with one of my doors???

"ENTITY 17"???

LivingDog

2009 Jan 30 • 20

IT WAS THE DOOR!!!

I had a mindset that what I was doing was wrong - so naturally I fixated on the focus of that - the ladder!

Octagon Ladder 01

Octagon Ladder 02

So you all can now call me King Creole!

Thanks for all the help guys!

Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse


2007 Oct 19 • 5486
57,583 ₧

Ah, misunderstood you with the separate CLIP brush thingy. Fair enough.