Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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So I've decided to set up a server to host my mom's photography website, and probably a site of my own as well, but there's a few things I want to know first before I do.
1.) I'm pretty sure I need to have a static IP to do this, so will I be able to do this on a NAT'd router?
2.) Obviously I will run a Linux server (windows sucks), but which Linux version should I use? I was gonna run Ubuntu, but Linux recommended using Debian if your gonna be using the system as a server.
3.) If I do run a site, its going to be a high risk site and I will need some decent security. Is there ways I can put ddos protection and stuff on there, or is that something I'd have to pay for? I don't want to risk my mom's site getting messed up due to being on the same server as mine.
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2010 Apr 8 at 08:25 PDT
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1.) You can do it behind a NAT'd router if the router has a public IP and can do port forwarding. But you'll need to update your DNS every time your IP changes too.
2.) Linux versions are mostly the same for running servers. The only difference I ever really run into is config file locations.
3.) I don't think there's any way to do DDoS protection on just one box. To do that you need multiple servers and load balancing and tons of bandwidth.
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2010 Apr 8 at 09:56 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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Ok, thanks. So I really just need to stop being so cheap nd invest a little money into getting a decent router... I've run into way too many problems with this one. If the Linux type doesn't really matter much, I think I'm gonna go with Ubuntu, since thats the only one I've ever used before or know anything about.
Well, I gues my next question then would be... what would be a good router to get? I find myself needing to mess with the ports and stuff fairly often, but can't really do much with the router I have now. I'm not too worried about the security on the router, more of functionality an accessibility.
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2010 Apr 8 at 10:10 PDT
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I've never found a good router. Good luck!
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2010 Apr 8 at 12:26 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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superjer said: I've never found a good router. Good luck!
Heh, alright... Well if I get one and really like it, I'll let you know 
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2010 Apr 8 at 13:21 PDT
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I prefer Belkin routers, they usually give you more settings then you should fuck with.
And, def go with Ubuntu Server Edition, remember LAMP.
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2010 Apr 8 at 14:03 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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sprinkles said: I prefer Belkin routers, they usually give you more settings then you should fuck with.
And, def go with Ubuntu Server Edition, remember LAMP.
More settings than I should fuck with.... sounds perfect. 
Also I don't want my server to be dark, so I will definitely remember to use a lamp  [/sarcasm]
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2010 Apr 8 at 14:05 PDT
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2010 Apr 8 at 14:20 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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I'll maybe just borrow the instal disk from you sometime 
I'm trying to buy this domain (www.infectio.us) from the guy that owns it now. I offered him $20 a year for it and right now he's only paying $5 a year for it, so we'll see if he will sell it.
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2010 Apr 8 at 14:56 PDT
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2010 Apr 8 at 15:00 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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That second one uses NAT, so I wouldn't reccomend getting it. That the biggest problem I have with my router now is that NAT just messes up everything I want to do.
Edit: and the first link isn't a router 
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2010 Apr 8 at 15:07 PDT
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2010 Apr 8 at 15:11 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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Awww, that guy said $20 isn't even in the ballpark on what he'd sell that domain for... yet he's only paying $5 a year... what a dick.
Well, time to spend another day thinking of cool domains 
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2010 Apr 8 at 19:49 PDT
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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Wait for Ubuntu 10.04, it'll be out soon. The router we have has an option to point directly to a certain network device should you want it to. We also have a static IP :)
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2010 Apr 9 at 08:11 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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Down Rodeo said: Wait for Ubuntu 10.04, it'll be out soon. The router we have has an option to point directly to a certain network device should you want it to. We also have a static IP :)
Yeah, its gonna be a little bit before I can get a new router anyway, so I'll wait to d/l Ubuntu.
I've got a dynamic IP  I've got no problem running no-ip DUC or something, but I'm pretty sure that won't work with NAT 
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2010 Apr 9 at 08:28 PDT
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Down Rodeo said: Wait for Ubuntu 10.04, it'll be out soon. The router we have has an option to point directly to a certain network device should you want it to. We also have a static IP :)
What? I jus' upgraded to 9.10, when does it come out?
April, but the Beta second edition is out now!
And it is damn pretty, and fast!
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2010 Apr 9 at 08:49 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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I have another question...
While looking for a cool domain name to purchase, I've been trying to incorporate the suffix of the url into the name (ie. infectio.us, malicio.us, cyb.org, etc.). Is there a way to use a custom suffix, or am I limited to stuff like .com .us .net etc.?
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2010 Apr 9 at 09:28 PDT
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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The hint's in the name - it's year.month, with releases every half-year.
Rockbomb: you're limited by those you see, they are called "top-level" domains. Currently ones exist for most countries (hence 'us') but there are things like info, com, org, net, the usual ones we know and loev.
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2010 Apr 9 at 11:14 PDT
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Down Rodeo said: The hint's in the name - it's year.month, with releases every half-year.
Thanks, have you seen the new Ubuntu? Its super sexy.
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2010 Apr 9 at 12:25 PDT
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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I've not, no. I'll install it when it's out, I had to revert to 9.04 for OpenCL support (it's crazy insane).
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2010 Apr 10 at 09:34 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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So I finally figured out that I can turn this router/modem into a bridge in conjunction with another router, and I got really excited. I have 3 other routers laying around! So I start looking up the specs on the other routers to make sure none of them use NAT... every single one of them does... 
And one of them isn't even from qwest!
:sigh: I guess I'm just not destined to do anything that requires port forwarding...
Edit: There has GOT to be some way to disable NAT and still be able to use my router... anyone know a way? I've googled for hours and hours and can't find anything. Hell, I even called my ISP tech support and they said "Hmmm, everything should still work fine if you disable NAT", yeah... everything works fine except I can't connect to the internet? HUR DURRRRR.
Anyway, enough babbling about how tech support is retarded, is there a way I can disable NAT and still connect to the internet?
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2010 Apr 12 at 08:07 PDT
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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Eh, if you tell your router to forward all data to one device you should be able to connect to the internet through that one device. Without NAT. I think. Why is NAT so bad again?
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2010 Apr 12 at 11:22 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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Down Rodeo said: Eh, if you tell your router to forward all data to one device you should be able to connect to the internet through that one device. Without NAT. I think. Why is NAT so bad again?
But then I'll only be able to connect to the internet through my server PC. I have 3 laptops that also need to be able to connect too.
And, I hate NAT because it seems that no matter what I do, it blocks almost all of my listening ports... making it impossible to forward the ports that I need to forward.
Edit: Also, just as an update on where I am as far as setting everything up... I've got Ubuntu running on my PC, and have the LAMP components installed and working. Now I just need to learn how to use it all ;)
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2010 Apr 12 at 11:36 PDT
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2045
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Ok... the biggest problem I'm having is, I need to keep a static IP. To accomplish this, I plan on using NO-IP.
Now this is the way I see things happening (from my very basic knowledge of how this all works)...
Since a router with NAT uses one IP for everything thats connected to it, if I run NO-IP, it will change my IP up until things get sent back to the router, where my router then changes it right back to the IP it was before... rendering no-ip useless.
...right?
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2010 Apr 12 at 13:00 PDT
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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I've no idea what NO-IP is. You could sign up for dynamic DNS, though this is where my knowledge gets sketchy...
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2010 Apr 12 at 13:21 PDT
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