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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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Just downloaded HoN and got this error: I joined a random game, and pressed on the shop, and I cant buy items! I mean the menu on the left comes up, but i press on everything and nothing happens, and the menu is still there. I also press on the X button, and it wont close
... Hopefully dota 2 will be good
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2011 Apr 11 at 07:02 UTC
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aaronjer
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2005 Mar 21 • 5046
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SRAW said: Umm dota is pretty balanced actually, and there is no 6 second stun with 4 second cooldown (infact the only 6 second stun in the game is techies stun mine, then I think the next longest is alchemist with 4, DK with 3 and the rest are mostly 2 seconds or less).
And I really don't like the cartoony graphics, and the stupid mastery system and the summoner stuff, the fact you can't pick up runes, and the item buying system is pretty dumb also.
Denying creeps is an important part of what makes Dota, since it usually gets your opponent pissed off if you play as sniper and deny every single creep until they start pinging at you like crazy  ^This.
SRAW said: Just downloaded HoN and got this error: I joined a random game, and pressed on the shop, and I cant buy items! I mean the menu on the left comes up, but i press on everything and nothing happens, and the menu is still there. I also press on the X button, and it wont close
... Hopefully dota 2 will be good
But items is very picky. It's not a problem once you know how it works but the item shops won't function unless you're standing in the exact right spot, have your hero selected, and aren't in the middle of using or trying to use an ability. One of those things is probably why it didn't work. There's also the possibility that you were trying to buy secret shop items. The item menu shows every buyable item regardless of whether or not you're at the shop that sells it.
Most control problems in HoN boil down to not having your hero selected when you think you do.
There apparently is some bug in a recent patch I've heard people talking about that makes the shop freeze up rarely. It might have just been that. Normally I'd be all bitchy about a bug that big making it in to the game but the game is free...
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2011 Apr 11 at 07:41 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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Yeah, I got it working, and on my second game, I was 3-0-2 with Lina(pyromancer) ... then mother nature decided it was a good idea to bring down a lightning storm, making my internet disconnect 
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2011 Apr 11 at 08:08 UTC
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aaronjer
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2005 Mar 21 • 5046
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Yeah. I also tend to call half the characters by their DotA name. Lots of people get all confused and then I'm all like, "Fuck you for never having played DotA."
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2011 Apr 11 at 09:19 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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I also noticed that half of the non ab games are TOTALLY IMBA, and now my current score is 0-5 with 3 disconnections
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2011 Apr 11 at 09:24 UTC
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aaronjer
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2005 Mar 21 • 5046
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Yeah. Play with autobalance or with a group of friends against a group of opponents. There's no way to get a non-ab game going without one side being massively stacked otherwise.
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2011 Apr 11 at 10:11 UTC
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buq25
2008 Jul 5 • 583
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I have just scratched the surface of DotA, yes. Not denying that. On the other hand I've never played a match where you're forced to play a random character (sounded like that's what you meant).
I don't either understand why people like the whole "control a single character which you can deselect" thing. LoL has made your champion always selected but you can still look at your enemies without loosing control of your own champion.
Sure, marking your champion to '1' for an example in DotA. DotA couldn't fix it and still make "stalking" your enemies possible because of the whole RTS-based game.
I'm not saying that HoN or DotA are bad games, I'm just saying that I don't like them.
Also, AJ, you said something about playing HoN free, are you doing that using Garena/something else? I could test it if it's free.
Today's post brought to you by the letter: "heck".
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2011 Apr 11 at 14:02 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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Umm, the fact that you can't deselect your hero is my biggest complain about LoL/HoN, since it just displays a small info bar and it's hard to see what items they have.
Also what they should really fix is make the health bars in HoN variable like in dota, so that you don't have to keep checking their hp, and instead get a estimate...
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2011 Apr 11 at 14:24 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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HoN is free for people in malaysia/singapore, or if you have gotten a beta key, but since the beta keys are all given away, you have to maybe wait a while until it's open beta..
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2011 Apr 11 at 14:25 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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And when I play dota I random every single time, since the extra 250 gold is pretty important early game.
and why you never played a random game or randomed is beyond me buq25...
and yes, this is a triple post
SUCK IT LoL
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2011 Apr 11 at 14:27 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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Also nice to see that me and aaronjer finally agreed on something, that Dota and HoN >>>>>> LoL
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2011 Apr 11 at 14:29 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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But that being said I really prefer the shop system in dota, since you just click on the icons of the items and it's in your circle and you don't have to browse through menus which I think is worse than just clicking on the buildings and buying stuff.
Also, the HoN map is either smaller, or the players run faster, and the models suck so much you can't tell whos who in a team fight, and therefore
DOTA >> HON >>>>>>>> LOL
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2011 Apr 11 at 14:55 UTC
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aaronjer
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2005 Mar 21 • 5046
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You have to be able to deselect your hero so that you can select minions instead. I always random as well if given the option. If it's an -sd or -rd I'll usually just pick whatever is best for my team.
You should always play random characters when you first start playing the game. It's the only way to get a feel for all the characters and know how to deal with them when you're against them. The only case in which you should pick a hero is if you're playing with a team you know against a team that knows each other as well. Either that or everyone on your team picked ranged support or mid game characters and you have to pick a melee stunner to carry the team.
I agree about the item shop being worse, but it's still entirely tolerable. The hero models you just get used to. It was probably a long time ago but it was just as hard to get used to the heroes in DotA as well. Although it helped if you'd already played a lot of WC3.
And come on, SRAW. The network issues? HoN has DotA beat so hard all the rest of the stuff feels like useless fluff. I mean, the item shop is a little bit of a mess... BIG DEAL, you can fucking finish the game without half the players disconnecting! You can also find matches suitable to your skill level and people that dc on purpose don't get to play! It's awesome!
Anyway, essentially, LoL is DotA/HoN for noobs. It's like TF2 to FF or TFC. Everything is simplified and the skill ceiling is dragged kicking and screaming down to just above the floor. Being moderately proficient at playing DotA/HoN as it is, I could never play LoL. It's like putting the training wheels and floaters on simultaneously and then having my mom hold my hand while I play.
To answer your question about free HoN, I got a beta key. There are also other ways to play it free that I have never looked into because I got a beta key. I did pay for the game anyway, but I didn't have to, it just deserved my money.
Also... yeah... what the fuck IS with how cartoony LoL is? It out-cartooned DotA by a long shot, and DotA is pretty fucking cartoony.
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2011 Apr 11 at 19:22 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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No I mean there are so many effects that sometimes when I die I'm like WTF KILLED ME?
But in dota if you die, it's pretty obvious how you got killed.
Also as I said, in team fights, it's hard to see what's going on cause they look the same, but in dota most of the heroes look different anyway.
No leavers is always nice though 
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2011 Apr 12 at 03:21 UTC
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aaronjer
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2005 Mar 21 • 5046
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SRAW said: No I mean there are so many effects that sometimes when I die I'm like WTF KILLED ME?
But in dota if you die, it's pretty obvious how you got killed.
This I agree with, although it gets a lot easier to tell after you've played for a while.
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2011 Apr 12 at 06:50 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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WTF @_@ I decided to play some dota, logging in to garena, and find one of my friends, who saw my status that I was playing LoL yesterday, is now playing LoL, so I just messaged him telling him that LoL sucks and that he should play HoN or dota.
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2011 Apr 12 at 08:03 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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Also, I had to create a program to take the screenshot, cause I'm using a laptop, and I tried pressing all kind of print screening stuff and nothing worked T_T Anyone help?
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2011 Apr 12 at 08:13 UTC
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SRAW said:
Also, I had to create a program to take the screenshot, cause I'm using a laptop, and I tried pressing all kind of print screening stuff and nothing worked T_T
Yeah it does that, but I want to know how.
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2011 Jul 10 at 13:05 UTC
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why the fuck is every team i'm grouped up with have no balls?
I drink to forget but I always remember.
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2012 Jul 17 at 22:21 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PLAYING LOL OVER DOTA 2?
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2012 Jul 17 at 22:24 UTC
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SRAW said: WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PAYING LOL FOVER DOTA 2?
I drink to forget but I always remember.
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2012 Jul 17 at 22:26 UTC
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the_cloud_system said: SRAW said: WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PAYING LOL FOVER DOTA 2?
Same reason I chose LoL over HoN/DotA to begin with. Haven't played LoL in ages though. Too many zombies to slay, too many baked-bean warriors who need to be taught the facts of life before they get too far off the beach.
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2012 Jul 17 at 23:23 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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What?? I didn't pay for dota 2 since I got an invite, and it's gonna be f2p anyways (only the retards pay money to get an invite when you can just sign up for the beta)
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2012 Jul 17 at 23:37 UTC
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SRAW said: all my friends live in a box in my room
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2012 Jul 18 at 06:09 UTC
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Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2525
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I find that remark rude and impossible to deny (and also you didn't even tell me why you like LoL over dota, because nobody who has played any of the other games would pick LoL over them)
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2012 Jul 18 at 14:51 UTC
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