[2013-10-19 04:29:57 UTC]	<SRAW>	so overcome with frustation that sraw has to resort to creating a new s team account to play dota 2 cuz on his main account it's been overrun by noobz DAFUQ?
[2013-10-19 04:30:11 UTC]	<SRAW>	anyways, these guys are noobs too, but atleast there arent any stomps andt he games are extremely exicting
[2013-10-19 04:30:16 UTC]	<SRAW>	in other words, VALVE IS GHEY
[2013-10-19 04:30:29 UTC]	<SRAW>	also I have to tell outcast of the most anticlimatic ending to a dota game ever
[2013-10-19 04:30:39 UTC]	<SRAW>	i was on the radiant as AM, and we had mega creeps
[2013-10-19 04:30:48 UTC]	<SRAW>	however, they had kunkka and gyro and bought divine rapiers
[2013-10-19 04:31:02 UTC]	<SRAW>	they were defending for atleast 20 minutes, when i decide enough is enough
[2013-10-19 04:31:09 UTC]	<SRAW>	i blinked in and manta'd and killed the throne in about 3 seconds
[2013-10-19 13:04:10 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Megas are hard.
[2013-10-19 13:04:19 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	What do you fellows think of 6.79?
[2013-10-19 14:49:38 UTC]	<aaronjer>	I was playing Solstice Arena. It's a moba made by the people that made farmville. It's the worst moba. Please play it ironically.
[2013-10-19 16:25:40 UTC]	<SRAW>	wow i looked up the changes, and they're like... wtf??
[2013-10-19 16:26:10 UTC]	<SRAW>	it looks like they made the game faster and the fact that range heroes now get the same denied xp...
[2013-10-19 16:26:20 UTC]	<SRAW>	this means they're trying to cater to new players and LoLTards
[2013-10-19 16:26:28 UTC]	<SRAW>	that can be theo nly explanantion
[2013-10-19 16:27:27 UTC]	<SRAW>	AND WHY DID THEY NERF BLOODSEEKER? DAFUQ?
[2013-10-19 16:27:38 UTC]	<SRAW>	well i guess global thirst means it's about the same
[2013-10-19 16:27:39 UTC]	<SRAW>	but still
[2013-10-19 16:27:43 UTC]	<SRAW>	pretty ghey stuff if u ask me
[2013-10-19 16:28:07 UTC]	<SRAW>	they seriously nerfed alchesmit too
[2013-10-19 16:32:35 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Will do AJ! We watch a lot of twitch in this flat, who's this streamer you embarrass?
[2013-10-19 16:33:07 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	It's a crazy patch but as my flatmate explained Icefrog is basically making it impossible to play the game the same way
[2013-10-19 16:33:46 UTC]	<SRAW>	yeah i know, i looked at the stuff, it seems they wanna end the days of split pushing or something
[2013-10-19 16:33:51 UTC]	<SRAW>	whch is lame AF
[2013-10-19 16:33:57 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Trilanes, pooling, saccing the offlaner... these are now basically impossible, or at least an unfavourable choice. We might see a return of 2-1-2 or 2-1-1
[2013-10-19 16:34:41 UTC]	<SRAW>	also they seirously made tranquil boots a bit op
[2013-10-19 16:34:43 UTC]	<SRAW>	dont ya think
[2013-10-19 16:34:47 UTC]	<SRAW>	and why am i double posting @_@
[2013-10-19 16:34:55 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	The hero balances are mostly really smart. Apart from the night vision nerfs to many many heroes... they were nice lore-wise and also just generally a nice buff for heroes that are sometimes weaker
[2013-10-19 16:35:01 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Yeah tranquils look insane
[2013-10-19 16:35:11 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Crystal Maiden best boots now, for sure
[2013-10-19 16:35:15 UTC]	<SRAW>	also 4 tangoes
[2013-10-19 16:35:16 UTC]	<SRAW>	:/
[2013-10-19 16:35:19 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Buuuut you can't disassemble
[2013-10-19 16:35:44 UTC]	<SRAW>	they made it so you can push all day
[2013-10-19 16:35:46 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	So forcing carries to make them and have to sell or whatever.
[2013-10-19 16:35:50 UTC]	<SRAW>	but they made split pushibng less viable
[2013-10-19 16:35:53 UTC]	<SRAW>	WHY ICEFROG WHY
[2013-10-19 16:35:57 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	How's that
[2013-10-19 16:36:34 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	pls respond
[2013-10-19 16:36:43 UTC]	<SRAW>	what?
[2013-10-19 16:36:58 UTC]	<SRAW>	im reading the stuff
[2013-10-19 16:37:48 UTC]	<SRAW>	also they nerfed axe and made a random roshan timer?
[2013-10-19 16:37:50 UTC]	<SRAW>	DAFUQ?
[2013-10-19 16:37:51 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Why have they  nerfed splitpush? I can't remember anything specifically about that
[2013-10-19 16:37:58 UTC]	<SRAW>	well furion creeps
[2013-10-19 16:38:00 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Random Roshan is cool.
[2013-10-19 16:38:04 UTC]	<SRAW>	give more gold and xp
[2013-10-19 16:38:12 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Eh, Furion needed it really badly.
[2013-10-19 16:38:15 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Like, fuck that guy.
[2013-10-19 16:39:18 UTC]	<SRAW>	also, they made stuff like evasion stacks, diminishingly though, and also that people gain gold faster
[2013-10-19 16:39:33 UTC]	<SRAW>	this all means that it will be more viable for a team with carries to win against split pushers
[2013-10-19 16:39:50 UTC]	<SRAW>	like now you gain gold every 0.6 seconds, isntead of 0.8, DAFUQ
[2013-10-19 16:40:18 UTC]	<SRAW>	like i said, i think that it would mean that teams with big team fight will have better items  and can force the issue
[2013-10-19 16:40:21 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	It's ~125 gold every 5 minutes, I think
[2013-10-19 16:40:46 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Significant for supports, say, how can now get wards "for free" on top of what they normally would have
[2013-10-19 16:41:20 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	I mean, it depends. Split push early will still destroy a carry-heavy team. If you just push into AM, he is sad.
[2013-10-19 16:41:34 UTC]	<SRAW>	wait, what?
[2013-10-19 16:41:35 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	I wonder how well an aggressive dual would work
[2013-10-19 16:41:39 UTC]	<SRAW>	you get free gold every 5 minutes?
[2013-10-19 16:41:47 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	No
[2013-10-19 16:41:58 UTC]	<SRAW>	oh you meant that you get extra that?
[2013-10-19 16:42:01 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	But the change is roughly that amount per 5 minutes
[2013-10-19 16:42:05 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Yearly.
[2013-10-19 16:42:10 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	*Yarly.
[2013-10-19 16:42:14 UTC]	<SRAW>	but what i mean is that a team that runs furion and alchemist will no longer be viable
[2013-10-19 16:42:39 UTC]	<SRAW>	llike alliance did the entire ti3
[2013-10-19 16:43:26 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Well, I guess that's somewhat true.
[2013-10-19 16:43:39 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	But both are strong heroes, right?
[2013-10-19 16:44:08 UTC]	<SRAW>	not any more thougha
[2013-10-19 16:44:11 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Alch will still be strong, it just means he now seriously has to consider BKB/Heart instead of going Shadow Blade/AC/more items
[2013-10-19 16:44:12 UTC]	<SRAW>	alcgemist ult
[2013-10-19 16:44:13 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Choice, that's all
[2013-10-19 16:44:18 UTC]	<SRAW>	doesnt give bonus hp
[2013-10-19 16:44:25 UTC]	<SRAW>	also they nerfed power threads more dafUQ?/
[2013-10-19 16:44:57 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	I know it doesn't!
[2013-10-19 16:45:11 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	So that's why a BKB or a heart would be nice
[2013-10-19 16:45:14 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	I guess even a vanguard
[2013-10-19 16:45:17 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	eugh
[2013-10-19 16:45:26 UTC]	<SRAW>	yes, but it means that he'll just be less reliable of a carry
[2013-10-19 16:45:33 UTC]	<SRAW>	also they nerfed lothars
[2013-10-19 16:45:34 UTC]	<SRAW>	you're right
[2013-10-19 16:45:44 UTC]	<SRAW>	eh i gotta go try some dota and see
[2013-10-19 16:45:46 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	needed, was too easy a pickup
[2013-10-19 16:46:41 UTC]	<SRAW>	it seems like everyone will be going tranquils anyways, it provides more ms when broken than the other 3 boots
[2013-10-19 16:46:46 UTC]	<SRAW>	and it gives armor too
[2013-10-19 16:46:51 UTC]	<SRAW>	it's like the new old phasse boots
[2013-10-19 16:47:32 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	yeah I can't see them not being ridiculously strong
[2013-10-19 16:47:33 UTC]	<SRAW>	also
[2013-10-19 16:47:34 UTC]	<SRAW>	* Non-Ancient Neutrals now split XP with all heroes in the AoE instead of just the team that killed them
[2013-10-19 16:47:38 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	OK I leave now, buhbye
[2013-10-19 16:47:47 UTC]	<SRAW>	YES BUT I NEED YOUR OPINION ON THIS!
[2013-10-19 16:47:49 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Yeah fuck stacking and pulling, right?
[2013-10-19 16:47:50 UTC]	<SRAW>	* Non-Ancient Neutrals now split XP with all heroes in the AoE instead of just the team that killed them
[2013-10-19 16:47:58 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Also have you seen the pull camp is small now
[2013-10-19 16:48:04 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	As I say
[2013-10-19 16:48:07 UTC]	<SRAW>	valve are greedy mofos
[2013-10-19 16:48:10 UTC]	<SRAW>	trying to cater to new players
[2013-10-19 16:48:10 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Fuck stacking and pulling
[2013-10-19 16:48:17 UTC]	<SRAW>	that's all that has to be said
[2013-10-19 16:48:24 UTC]	<SRAW>	im going to watch man city vs west ham on tv lol
[2013-10-19 16:48:27 UTC]	<SRAW>	bye dr:(
[2013-10-19 16:48:33 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	I really don't think that's what it is - basically, IceFrog changes what ever the meta is
[2013-10-19 16:48:36 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	He does the opposite
[2013-10-19 16:48:44 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	YOU LEFT YOU SUCK
[2013-10-19 16:48:55 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	You can't ask for my opinion then bugger off
[2013-10-19 16:48:58 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	SHITLORD
[2013-10-19 17:20:07 UTC]	<SRAW>	eh what
[2013-10-19 17:20:17 UTC]	<SRAW>	i was just looking at tv and also reading opinions on the change log
[2013-10-19 17:20:41 UTC]	<SRAW>	and as for icefrog, well how do we know he's the one who made these changes?
[2013-10-19 17:20:59 UTC]	<SRAW>	it seems like valve must have thought that split pushing was too OP and decided to nerf itt
[2013-10-19 17:21:46 UTC]	<SRAW>	that being said, maybe having small changes, like furion nerf and increasing backdoor regen and then buffing some big team fight heroes would have been fine
[2013-10-19 17:21:54 UTC]	<SRAW>	but instead, they basically changed the entire meta
[2013-10-19 21:37:12 UTC]	<fedex _>	What?
[2013-10-19 23:20:28 UTC]	<SRAW>	basically, instead of making small, periodic changes to make split pushing less powerful, they basically changed the entire game
[2013-10-19 23:20:37 UTC]	<SRAW>	for example, jungling and pulling is much less viable
[2013-10-19 23:31:48 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	That's my point though
[2013-10-19 23:31:55 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	He aims to keep the game exciting and fresh
[2013-10-19 23:32:00 UTC]	<Down Rodeo>	Big changes.