[2012-02-24 00:05:13 UTC] Mate: ignore it. Java is basically a big bunch o' bullshit. [2012-02-24 00:06:42 UTC] I'm not entirely sure what the serialisation is, but I think it is to do with uniquely identifying a class. For my part, I have never implemented the relevant field, and my programs are shit hot. [2012-02-24 00:06:47 UTC] When did you start using Java? [2012-02-24 03:13:22 UTC] lol rockbomb, the only reason you would hate dota 2 is if you completely suck at it [2012-02-24 03:13:42 UTC] you said you never played the original dota, so you probably got owned in the laning phase by someone who knows what denying creeps is [2012-02-24 03:57:58 UTC] Yeah, cuz... I can't hate the game for a reason like "It's slow, boring, and the controls blow ass... also, the bar at the bottom of the screen takes up a quarter of the screen". [2012-02-24 03:59:31 UTC] Then why is it that everyone who plays any other dota clone says that LoL is the shittiest of them all? [2012-02-24 03:59:51 UTC] its like fred durst fans saying he's the best guitarists, when he fucking sucks [2012-02-24 03:59:53 UTC] same here [2012-02-24 04:13:21 UTC] I know many people who prefer LoL over DotA, so idk where you're getting that from. [2012-02-24 04:14:09 UTC] I do like the graphics in DotA... I'l give it that. But other than the graphics, I think LoL pretty much exceeds it in everything else. [2012-02-24 04:26:57 UTC] How? dota has denying, runes, more heroes, more items, and basically more better [2012-02-24 04:36:53 UTC] And i hope you know what the runes that im talking about are [2012-02-24 04:56:40 UTC] Denying is boring imo... LoL has something similar to runes (only you have to kill mobs to obtain the buff, rather than just pick it up), dota only has about 10 more heroes than LoL... dunno about the items. [2012-02-24 05:58:27 UTC] dota 2 has about 10 more heroes [2012-02-24 05:58:32 UTC] dota 1 has more [2012-02-24 05:58:46 UTC] anyway, LoL = no skill [2012-02-24 05:58:47 UTC] dota = skill [2012-02-24 05:58:49 UTC] thats all [2012-02-24 06:05:12 UTC] Wrong yet again... DotA has 108 heroes. LoL has 93 champs. So that's 15 more. [2012-02-24 06:09:29 UTC] And they both take about the same amount of skill. [2012-02-24 07:59:11 UTC] There's a difference though [2012-02-24 07:59:21 UTC] Dota sucks tits,LoL sucks nipples [2012-02-24 15:11:05 UTC] The entire reason I don't like LoL is that its skill ceiling is lower than DotA/HoN. Stuff like denying creeps well is really hard to do and takes a lot of precision and planning. That LoL doesn't have that just evens the playing field for worse players. I dun like that. It's like comparing TFC and TF2... if you're not very good at TF2 you can still do okay, if you're not very good at TFC you will just die over and over again. I can understand why people would like the more accessible games, but for someone like me that's already spent the time getting good at them it feels like a serious step back.