[2011-01-31 00:02:43 UTC] WAKA waka flocka WAKA flocka FLOCKA FLOCKA WAKA BLAO BLAO BLAO BLAO [2011-01-31 01:51:18 UTC] Nothing happens on Sundays. [2011-01-31 01:54:03 UTC] I know, its crazy. Its like you and I are the only two people on superforumz.jer that don't have a life. [2011-01-31 02:54:52 UTC] qq [2011-01-31 03:05:06 UTC] Oh, I see you don't have a life either, cloud. Glad to see its not just me and DR (DR is kinda creepy, and I don't like being catagorized into the same thing as him... unless there are also others being catagorized with us) [2011-01-31 03:10:08 UTC] a mass murdering barber? [2011-01-31 13:48:08 UTC] Hey, I resent that. It only appears that I don't have a life! I just have a lot of time in my days. [2011-01-31 20:53:30 UTC] Yeah, I have 36 hour days so I have a lot of time with not much to do. [2011-01-31 20:53:46 UTC] It's also why I appear to age really slowly. [2011-01-31 21:08:49 UTC] I just sleep a lot. Sometimes my days have normal hours and sometimes they don't. [2011-01-31 21:15:16 UTC] At this point, it looks like all my characters might reach level 99 before Starman Super drops the Sword of Kings. [2011-01-31 21:15:31 UTC] I'd be less pissed if not for those goddamned Atomic Power Robots. [2011-01-31 21:23:45 UTC] FUCK YES SWORD OF KINGS. AND NOT ALL OF MY CHARACTERS ARE 99 YET [2011-01-31 21:34:03 UTC] Oh man, I haven't been that enthused since the last time I got the Sword of Kings and then my computer crashed. [2011-01-31 21:43:34 UTC] It's that powerful. [2011-01-31 21:49:41 UTC] Well, it didn't crash immedaitely. I blew up the Stonehenge base and then got the "Overcoming Shyness" book and beat the seventh sanctuary and then the computer crashed. [2011-01-31 21:49:48 UTC] Somehow I forgot to save in all that time. [2011-01-31 21:50:00 UTC] It's going to be funny when someone reads this because they won't know what the fuck is going on. [2011-01-31 21:50:11 UTC] In light of that, I probably should have mentioned the Tendakraut. [2011-01-31 21:50:38 UTC] Not even I know what's going on and I know what you're talking about! [2011-01-31 21:51:58 UTC] I can't decide if I want to play Civ 5 or DDO. This is probably the biggest decision of my life so I need to be careful. [2011-01-31 21:52:33 UTC] I would say that you shouldn't play too much Civ 5 because I'm going to get a new computer in the next month or so and you're going to need to play with me. [2011-01-31 21:53:39 UTC] If I play Civ 5 I'll get to continue to comply with all of America's demands regardless of how bad it is for me even though they are by FAR the weakest civilization still standing. [2011-01-31 21:54:17 UTC] They've even demanded that I go to war with one of my allies and then chastised me for it a turn later calling me a traitor and a backstabber. [2011-01-31 21:54:21 UTC] THEY'RE CRAZY. [2011-01-31 21:55:17 UTC] Also, in Civ 5, even more so than in Civ 4... do not keep enemy cities. Always raze and replace, unless there is useful wonder. [2011-01-31 21:55:32 UTC] Occupied cities are such a hassle, it's just not worth letting the people live. [2011-01-31 21:56:02 UTC] But doesn't razing cities make people hate you? [2011-01-31 21:56:27 UTC] For a limited number of turns or until the city is totally demolished. Razing it takes time. [2011-01-31 21:56:35 UTC] Other leaders don't seem to mind. [2011-01-31 21:56:44 UTC] That's new! [2011-01-31 21:57:00 UTC] Keeping the city either gives you a big hit to happiness or a big hit to money. [2011-01-31 21:57:25 UTC] I remember in Civ 3, other civilizations used to make pacts to contain the aggression of your civilization even if you had never attacked anyone. [2011-01-31 21:57:28 UTC] At best the city will cost you an extra 4 gold. It'll probably have more negative effects than that though. [2011-01-31 21:57:58 UTC] Well, expanding a lot and having the highest score is more threatening than being warlike. [2011-01-31 21:58:13 UTC] I suppose [2011-01-31 21:58:18 UTC] Especially in Civ 4, because being warlike really hurt you because of the terrible unhappiness it caused. [2011-01-31 21:58:36 UTC] In Civ 5 your people don't give a fuck who you kill as long as you're winning. [2011-01-31 21:58:47 UTC] It's interesting that you pretty much have to play each game in the series differently.... [2011-01-31 21:59:24 UTC] Culture flipping was overpowered in 3... some wonders in 4 were kind of ridiculous. [2011-01-31 21:59:25 UTC] Being warlike was STILL the best in Civ 4, because other methods left you weak and easy to kill and it took MUCH longer to win, resulting in a lower score. [2011-01-31 21:59:52 UTC] Which is not to say that the other games didn't have broken wonders. Leonardo's Workshop in Civ 2, holy god. [2011-01-31 22:00:20 UTC] Maybe. I managed to win one game around 1300 with a diplomatic victory..... that was.... interesting. [2011-01-31 22:00:48 UTC] In Civ 5 being warlike and doing so much as conquering two civilizations out of 15 will cause the rest to ally against you for at least 50 turns. You have to be careful who you massacre, even though your own people don't mind war. [2011-01-31 22:01:30 UTC] So, do whatever you want so long as you don't conquer them? [2011-01-31 22:01:32 UTC] It's not uncommon for me to be at war with every Civ in the world at once, and without me declaring war on any of them, just because they think I'm dangerous and want to get rid of me. [2011-01-31 22:02:04 UTC] Hooray! [2011-01-31 22:02:13 UTC] It's safer to wreck everybody's shit equally without finishing anyone off. They're much less likely to ally against you that way and then you can finish them all off at once. [2011-01-31 22:03:16 UTC] Also, even if two warlike empires like the Mongols and Songhai decide to attack me at the same time, and even if they have larger more advanced armies, I'll still utterly trounce them. [2011-01-31 22:03:33 UTC] Because computers have the tactical skill of a watermelon rind. [2011-01-31 22:03:57 UTC] So it seems like Civ 5's glaring flaw that makes the game nearly unplayable is that [2011-01-31 22:04:12 UTC] I'll seriously pwn riflemen with crossbows and longswordsman... it's just sad. [2011-01-31 22:04:46 UTC] I don't think most people are as tactically adept as I am. The computers are dumb, but they do pretty well against even GaryJer in an even fight, because he never plans his battles at all. [2011-01-31 22:05:14 UTC] Yeah that's probably right [2011-01-31 22:06:07 UTC] I always make sure I get the first shot, that my soldiers are specialized to the task, and that I'm always outnumbering single units and avoiding a major confrontation before I've weakened the enemy... GaryJer just throws in a big army and then complains if they all died without thinking of WHY they died. [2011-01-31 22:07:06 UTC] He still wins a lot, because most comps just don't make enough military units and they're dumber than he is... but he could certainly do better, and would be in trouble in situations I could easily get out of. [2011-01-31 22:07:17 UTC] It seems easier to do that in Civ 5 though. [2011-01-31 22:07:25 UTC] The combat is surprisingly deep in Civ 5, especially since it was absurdly simple in all other Civ games. [2011-01-31 22:08:07 UTC] Because in Civ 4 you'd just have a stack of units that were somewhat diversified, which meant attacking first without softening them up wasn't all that advisable [2011-01-31 22:08:10 UTC] The computers were even stupider as far as strategy goes in Civ 4, they just made unbelievably massive armies. [2011-01-31 22:09:39 UTC] And since there was no strategy to take advantage of they only way you could beat a comp whose army was much stronger than yours was to get it to waste it's time killing a single weak unit, because the stack would always stick together. You could get a massive comp army to sit in place for like a 100 turns pretty easily. [2011-01-31 22:10:33 UTC] At least the comps in Civ 5 know how to retreat. The Civ 4 ones were so stupid they would pointlessly die on your walls once even though they had NO chance of winning. [2011-01-31 22:10:56 UTC] Yeah, I hated those unbelievably massive armies though, especially because they got them way too fast to not be cheating in a lot of cases. [2011-01-31 22:11:13 UTC] Yeah, it was pretty clear they were cheating. [2011-01-31 22:11:40 UTC] You could kill a massive 50 unit stack, and then another 50 unit stack shows up 3 turns later and you're like BULLSHIT./ [2011-01-31 22:12:01 UTC] That's what usually happened to me.... and usually with Boudica [2011-01-31 22:12:13 UTC] I could believe a human player could do something like that, because human player cities don't suck... [2011-01-31 22:12:31 UTC] But computers suck ass at city building and there's no way they could have the production for that. [2011-01-31 22:13:21 UTC] Well, that was 50/50, either she'd ally with me and we'd push someone's shit in or she'd go to war with me, usually because I killed off a rival with good resources before she could. [2011-01-31 22:13:36 UTC] Yeah computer cities are also placed in retarded places. [2011-01-31 22:14:00 UTC] Boudica is the only civ in Civ 4 I could ever get to make a permanent alliance with me. No one else would EVER do it. It was weird. [2011-01-31 22:14:20 UTC] Boudica is a civ, not a person. [2011-01-31 22:14:37 UTC] Sure is! [2011-01-31 22:14:52 UTC] Most of the time I had unrestricted leaders so whatever. [2011-01-31 22:15:07 UTC] I'd usually have to make sure not to expand too quickly to get that to happen. Apparently no civ in Civ 4 will ever ally with you if you have the top score. [2011-01-31 22:15:39 UTC] You also have to have gone to war together and had all sorts of other agreements for like hundreds of years. [2011-01-31 22:16:20 UTC] And still, only Boudica would ever wanna be permabuddies. I desperately tried to get Gandhi to be my pal even... totally didn't work. [2011-01-31 22:17:11 UTC] I've never had a permanent alliance when I've had a top score but I've had defensive pacts? [2011-01-31 22:17:39 UTC] That was usually with Brennus, and he'd usually break them by declaring war on someone, like Frederick, and then as soon as the war ended we'd have a defensive pact again. [2011-01-31 22:17:42 UTC] It was really funny. [2011-01-31 22:17:52 UTC] Defensive pacts schmesensive pacts. Computers will backstab you in a heartbeat anyway. Randomly. With no plan to gain anything from it. [2011-01-31 22:18:48 UTC] yeah, like fucking boudica and also Alexander a lot of the time. I've never played a game where Alexander wasn't being a dick. [2011-01-31 22:19:06 UTC] Oh, by the way, computers will do ANYTHING in Civ 5 to avoid losing their capitol city. If you're about to conquer it you can demand they give you every single thing they own and they'll comply as long as you make peace. It's neat! [2011-01-31 22:19:46 UTC] this... also seems like a way in which the game is broken [2011-01-31 22:20:01 UTC] It makes sense. You effective lose in Civ 5 if you lose your capitol. [2011-01-31 22:20:26 UTC] I mean, it's okay to be broken as long as it's broken in an entertaining way. [2011-01-31 22:20:44 UTC] You're still in the game, but you can't win unless you take your capitol back. Capitols can't be razed, by the way, so there's always a chance to get it back. [2011-01-31 22:21:07 UTC] This is going to be hard for me to play Civ 5. [2011-01-31 22:21:29 UTC] I'm going to want to send Zoroaster to Berlin to build the Temple of Solomon and I just won't be able to do it. [2011-01-31 22:21:35 UTC] Conquest victories aren't attained by destroying other civs completely. you win automatically just by making sure nobody but you owns their capitol. [2011-01-31 22:22:01 UTC] And it's better NOT to finish them off. [2011-01-31 22:22:09 UTC] For the reasons I mentioned before. [2011-01-31 22:22:55 UTC] BTW, is the conquest victory not fucked up this time because jesus christ owning 70% of the land mass but only 33% of the population who the fuck came up with that criteria? [2011-01-31 22:22:57 UTC] You can actually permanently cripple a civ by taking all of their cities except for a puppet city of another civ that they own. They'll have no control over it and won't be able to make settlers or units ever again. [2011-01-31 22:23:25 UTC] There is no domination victory anymore. Conquest is achieved just by taking capitols. [2011-01-31 22:26:22 UTC] Have they taken away other victories or just dommination? [2011-01-31 22:32:49 UTC] Just domination. [2011-01-31 22:33:10 UTC] Phew, if you had taken any longer to respond I was going to go to the store and get some chicken [2011-01-31 22:33:32 UTC] And they added the arbitrary victory condition, which happens seemingly at random and it's best to turn it off. [2011-01-31 22:33:48 UTC] I ALREADY HAVE CHICKEN. [2011-01-31 22:34:07 UTC] WELL THEN WHY AREN'T YOU SHARING [2011-01-31 22:35:06 UTC] I can't get it back out of my tummy. [2011-01-31 22:36:32 UTC] Well if it's all chyme-y I don't want it. [2011-01-31 22:36:47 UTC] I'll have to go to the store and get some chicken for myself. [2011-01-31 22:36:55 UTC] Some chicken that hasn't been partially digested yet. [2011-01-31 22:37:24 UTC] I'm sure there's a bite or two that would still taste like chicken. [2011-01-31 22:37:32 UTC] But you'd have to fish it out. [2011-01-31 22:37:47 UTC] I'm pretty sure that by the time I get there it won't taste like chicken at all. [2011-01-31 22:39:15 UTC] Anyway, I really just need something to tide me over for a few hours before I get some teriyaki. [2011-01-31 22:39:19 UTC] Bee are bee. [2011-01-31 22:45:38 UTC] Can I have some teriyaki? [2011-01-31 22:56:05 UTC] You can if you get some yourself. [2011-01-31 22:56:27 UTC] My favorite place closed down so I'm just going to go to random spots until something starts to be tasty. [2011-01-31 22:57:00 UTC] There's a pretty good one in my town right by the QFC. There are about 20 other ones within 2 miles of that and they're all really bad. [2011-01-31 22:57:59 UTC] Yeah they're all over the fucking place. [2011-01-31 22:58:26 UTC] I was going to the one by the Totem Lake Fred Meyer but that went out, along with most of the other things in that strip (I think Fred Meyer is expanding) [2011-01-31 22:58:45 UTC] so I'm going to try one in Kenmore, and then we shall determine if there is more than one good thing in Kenmore.